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Adrenal hormones?

Posted by phil4121 on 29 Mar 2014 at 19:42 GMT

Did the study look at adrenal hormones? Other studies have shown that the HPA axis is disrupted in GWI patients and is significantly associated with symptoms (VA report, 2008). Given that aldosterone reduces phosphocreatine recovery time (Zange 2013), that would seem to be a likely explanation as to why there is a phosphocreatine delay.

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RE: Adrenal hormones?

DrGolomb replied to phil4121 on 31 Mar 2014 at 05:00 GMT

This study did not assess adrenal steroids, but steroid hormone abnormalities are fully consistent with our hypothesis and findings. Mitochondria are directly involved in production and regulation of corticosteroids including aldosterone, as has long been recognized1-4. Indeed, enzymes required for adrenal steroid hormone production are located in the mitochondria, which are involvedin both basal and stimulated adrenal hormone secretion5-8. And, adrenal steroid hormone dysregulation (including hypo and hyperadrenal manifestations) is a recognized manifestation in mitochondrial dysfunction9.

(A discussion of our proposed pathway that extends to adrenal hormone effects, among numerous other processes that may participate in a more detailed causal pathway, is in the submitted manuscript for our coenzyme Q10 randomized trial findings, with publication expected later this year. Note that the Figure 1 legend expressly designates the mechanistic model shown as an abridged version.)

Feedback and feedforward processes of products on production mechanisms10 are biologically common, and for this or other reasons, excess aldosterone can in turn inhibit or disrupt mitochondrial function11-15 with mechanisms including stimulation of mitochondrial reactive oxygen species12, 16, 17. However, that would be expected to produce the opposite of the direction effect for aldosterone that was alluded to.

We tried to find the incompletely cited “(Zange, 2013)” article, via a Pubmed search (conducted through Endnote, performed today March 30, 2014), but search terms Author=Zange + Year=2013 + Any Field= aldosterone did not yield any articles.

We did, however, identify a 2001 article with Zange as an author that did examine this:

Christ M, Zange J, Janson CP, Müller K, Kuklinski P, Schmidt BMW, Tillmann HC, Gerzer R, and Wehling M. Hypoxia modulates rapid effects of aldosterone on oxidative metabolism in human calf muscle. J Endocrinol Invest 24: 587–597, 2001.

Notably, though, this study explicitly failed to find a detectable effect of aldosterone on PCr recovery18. In discussing to time constants of PCr recovery, this article expressly states “Recovery kinetics were not significantly modified by the injection of aldosterone.” And later, “An aldosterone induced modulation of the time constant of the increase of PCr in the recovery period after isometric exercise, which is a marker of the aerobic ATP synthesis rate, cannot be detected.”

To summarize, mitochondrial are involved in production of steroid hormones, and mitochondrial dysfunction leads to alterations in steroid hormones: adrenal hormone alterations are wholly consistent with our findings. While feedforward and feedback regulation systems are common, in fact, pharmacological manipulation of aldosterone was not found to alter PCr recovery kinetics in the article we identified that examined this

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RE: RE: Adrenal hormones?

phil4121 replied to DrGolomb on 31 Mar 2014 at 21:19 GMT

The reference is "Nongenomic effects of aldosterone on phosphocreatine levels in human calf muscle during recovery from exercise".

To be honest I think you would need more evidence before implicating mitochondria. Measuring phosphocreatine on its own doesn't necessarily tell you if there is actually a problem with the mitochondria.

Also, given that your unpublished Q10 study apparently didn't find any significant difference in overall general self-rated health (http://www.va.gov/RAC-GWV...), I'm not sure if that really adds any weight to the mitochondria theory.

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Data do not comport with an adrenal explanation

DrGolomb replied to phil4121 on 01 Apr 2014 at 00:40 GMT

That Zange reference, ""Nongenomic effects of aldosterone on phosphocreatine levels in human calf muscle during recovery from exercise" [1], is in fact even earlier (from 1996, not 2013). That study reported that aldosterone, injected all-at-once *in an amount that is 8-10 times the total daily production*, elevated the final PCr level following exercise to above that of the prior resting state [1]. This addresses a different outcome, and uses aldosterone administration that is highly supraphysiological. And Zange's subsequent coauthored 2001 paper clarifies explicitly that aldosterone did *not* change the PCr recovery time constant (even though again aldosterone was administered at multiply supraphysiological doses -- ~ 5x total daily production) [2]. These citations clearly do not comport with the proposition that corticosteroid/ aldosterone alterations in Gulf War veterans provide an explanation for these findings.

In a sense, it is not PCr “on its own” that we are evaluating, but expressly the recovery time constant of PCr following exercise, during which PCr is regenerated with use of ATP. It is this that others have referred to as "a marker of the aerobic ATP synthesis rate" [2], a ‘‘an estimate of net oxidative ATP synthesis,’’ [3] ‘‘a robust and practical way to study mitochondrial regulation and to quantify effective mitochondrial defects in vivo’’ [4].

Is it possible that something else could influence the PCr recovery time constant? It is almost always the case, even for routinely conducted tests, that a marker recognized to ably reflect one condition can sometimes be influenced by other factors. Altered PCr recovery time constant at minimum reflects bioenergetic alterations, which are, in any case, more or less the point.

As to the coQ10 findings, these will be published later this year; the right time to debate their (distinct) implications is at that juncture..

References
1. Zange J, Muller K, Gerzer R, Sippel K, Wehling M (1996) Nongenomic effects of aldosterone on phosphocreatine levels in human calf muscle during recovery from exercise. J Clin Endocrinol Metab 81: 4296-4300.
2. Christ M, Zange J, Janson CP, Muller K, Kuklinski P, et al. (2001) Hypoxia modulates rapid effects of aldosterone on oxidative metabolism in human calf muscle. J Endocrinol Invest 24: 587-597.
3. Kemp GJ, Taylor DJ, Radda GK (1993) Control of phosphocreatine resynthesis during recovery from exercise in human skeletal muscle. NMR Biomed 6: 66-72.
4. Thompson CH, Kemp GJ, Sanderson AL, Radda GK (1995) Skeletal muscle mitochondrial function studied by kinetic analysis of postexercise phosphocreatine resynthesis. J Appl Physiol 78: 2131-2139.

No competing interests declared.