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Berlin Neurobiology journal club questions

Posted by BjoernBrembs on 25 Jun 2008 at 09:12 GMT

This comment has been prepared by the journal club of the Neurobiology department of the Freie Universität Berlin, after a discussion of the current publication among junior faculty, postdocs, graduate students and undergraduates.

We thought the experiments presented in the current publication were addressing a very interesting aspect of honeybee biology and the described experiments were exciting and innovative. Especially the method to create hybrid colonies of two different honeybee species was considered a real breakthrough and crucial to the creative study. The results were intriguing and thought-provoking.

After our discussion, there remained a list of questions which we collectively could not answer unambiguously from the publication. Therefore, we decided to use the comment feature of PLoS One to ask the authors directly.

1. For the results on the accuracy of recruitment (Fig. 4), it seems to be critical that not a single Acc bee is dancing in the mixed hive to indicate the location of the food source to its conspecifics there. How were Acc bees prevented from dancing during the time of training for the Aml bees and especially during the phase when recruited Acc bees were allowed to return to the hive before their second foraging trip?

2. From the regression in Fig. 3 we calculated that Aml bees from the mixed colony trained to the feeder in 500m distance (Fig. 4) would dance for just under 1000ms (assuming the regression still holds when data for 500m are included). This would indicate a distance of about 250m for the Acc bees. How many Acc bees were searching for a food source at 250m?

3. If the recruited Acc bees did not find food at 250m, could they have continued in the indicated direction (along a prominent landmark, the Da-Mei-canal) until they found the feeder with food (either alone or by following Aml animals)?

4. We wondered whether Acc bees recruited by Aml bees required more time to find a food source than if they had been recruited by Acc bees, i.e., was flight time ever recorded?

5. Apis cerana is slightly smaller than Apis mellifera and the allometry of behavior is a complex issue. Could the size difference have had any conceivable effect on the data (e.g., in influencing how optic flow is measured or how many animals can follow a dance or how different large vs. small bees dance)?

6. Because bees do not change their dance in a mixed colony, each following bee would have to be able to tell the species of the dancing bee in order to consistently arrive at the food source. Presumably, the Aml bees in the mixed colony only survive because they are not recognized as a different species from Acc. How can these two insights be reconciled?

Thank you very much in advance!

RE: Berlin Neurobiology journal club questions

Songkun replied to BjoernBrembs on 27 Jun 2008 at 12:32 GMT

Question 1. For the results on the accuracy of recruitment (Fig. 4), it seems to be critical that not a single Acc bee is dancing in the mixed hive to indicate the location of the food source to its conspecifics there. How were Acc bees prevented from dancing during the time of training for the Aml bees and especially during the phase when recruited Acc bees were allowed to return to the hive before their second foraging trip?

Answer: Acc bees were marked at the feeder and allowed to return to the hive only in the early, pre-training phase on the study, simply to ensure that the bees visiting the feeder were indeed from the observation hive. This phase was brief, and the observation hive was monitored throughout this period, to ensure that no Acc bees were dancing (in any case, bees normally require a few trips to a food source before they start to advertise it through a dance). As the Acc bees were only allowed a total of two trips to the feeder (with one intervening trip back to the hive), no dances occurred during this phase of the study. In all subsequent phases of the actual experimental procedure, new Acc recruits were captured at the feeder and killed.

Question 2. From the regression in Fig. 3 we calculated that Aml bees from the mixed colony trained to the feeder in 500m distance (Fig. 4) would dance for just under 1000ms (assuming the regression still holds when data for 500m are included). This would indicate a distance of about 250m for the Acc bees. How many Acc bees were searching for a food source at 250m?

Answer: In our published experiments, we did not monitor the recruits’ search behavior at 250 m. However, this is a very good question for the future investigation. Thanks!

Question 3. If the recruited Acc bees did not find food at 250m, could they have continued in the indicated direction (along a prominent landmark, the Da-Mei-canal) until they found the feeder with food (either alone or by following Aml animals)?

Answer: See response to Question 2.

Question 4. We wondered whether Acc bees recruited by Aml bees required more time to find a food source than if they had been recruited by Acc bees, i.e., was flight time ever recorded?

Answer: No, we did not record flight times. In this regard, we hypothesize that communication would be more efficient between same species than between different species. However, there are some other factors that could affect the flight time of recruits, such as differences in the motivation of the two species. We observed in our experiments that the Acc foragers in the mixed colony with Acc queen are more likely than Aml to follow a dance. This is also a good question, and will be investigated in future experiments.

Question 5. Apis cerana is slightly smaller than Apis mellifera and the allometry of behavior is a complex issue. Could the size difference have had any conceivable effect on the data (e.g., in influencing how optic flow is measured or how many animals can follow a dance or how different large vs. small bees dance)?

Answer: We cannot answer this question at this stage.

Question 6. Because bees do not change their dance in a mixed colony, each following bee would have to be able to tell the species of the dancing bee in order to consistently arrive at the food source. Presumably, the Aml bees in the mixed colony only survive because they are not recognized as a different species from Acc. How can these two insights be reconciled?

Answer: We are currently carrying out experiments to investigate the existence of social learning with respect to the honeybee dance language in species-mixed hive. The experiments that need to be carried out to answer this question are really quite complex (as is the interpretation of the results), and we hope to be able provide you the full picture in a future publication.

Thank you Dr. Brembs! You and your colleagues have raised many interesting questions that have prompted us to explore intriguing new avenues of future research.